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No guest would permit themselves to be shamed in the typical /dev/hell manner this week, so this time around you're stuck with the gruesome twosome. We hit on a few topical topics in this episode, including a dude scoring Internet Ego Points for saying PHP sucks (really?), the "technology preview" of Meteor (no, not that Meteor), and an Important Startup Guy who says that remote working is baaaaaaad. Plus we say "horseshit" a lot.